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Livestock vs vegan debate hots up

05 Nov, 2009 07:11 PM
LIVESTOCK producers across the developed world are under pressure as concerns about food security and climate change create a debate in which the vegetarian lobby has adopted the high moral ground.

Advocates of vegetarianism say that a plant-based diet requires less land and less water, produces less greenhouse gas emissions, and is healthier than a diet incorporating meat.

But how useful is the “world must turn vegetarian” argument, really?

Support for the individual arguments in favour of vegetarianism can be found in a number of studies, but the full picture is more complicated.

In Australia, a continent where only 7pc of the land mass is suitable for cropping and where irrigation capacity is limited (and may be in permanent decline), switching to a purely plant-based diet would radically change the amount of food the nation produces.

In 2008, the nation’s livestock industries produced 2.87 million tonnes of beef and sheepmeat—four per cent of the world’s beef and eight per cent of its sheepmeat.

Milk production is close to a billion litres, nearly half of it exported.

Some of that livestock production came at the expense of grain production, or through feeding grain that might have fed people.

But producing animal protein can also create food from grain that would otherwise be unsuitable for human consumption.

The fact is, said MLA’s Dr Beverley Henry, “that we don’t fully understand the impacts of substituting animal protein for vegetable protein”.

“We do know that meat provides nutrients that are valuable for human health. Substituting meat with vegetable protein would require a lot more intake and therefore require that currently uncropped land was converted to cropping to fit that need.”

“But most of our meat production occurs on land that isn’t arable. And if Australia stopped eating red meat and the animals disappeared from the landscape, so too would the management that pastoralists provide.”

“The landscape wouldn’t just go back to pre-European settlement conditions: it would be overrun with weeds and feral animals, and be prone to hot wildfires.”

Such possibilities align with the belief of British researcher Dr Tara Garnett that any consideration of food production and its effect on climate must take into account the “second order impacts” of any production system, and “opportunity cost”—like whether plant-based substitutes for meat are actually a more efficient way of producing food.

Second order impacts cut both ways.

Dr Garnett points out that the United States feedlot-based beef industry uses soybean from Brazil, grown on land deforested so it could be cropped, with a resulting release of greenhouse gas emissions not accounted for in the US beef emissions life cycle inventory.

At the same time, removing animals from land only suitable for grazing takes away the land’s economic value and the ability to sequester carbon through managed pastures.

Dr Garnett, who manages the Food Climate Research Network (FCRN), said any conversation around food production inevitably becomes a tug-of-war between economics, politics and ethics.

“We have a lot of political pressure to tackle climate change, but also enormous pressure to give people what they want—which is meat,” she said.

That human desire for meat makes it certain the the vegetarian lobby will always remain a voice in the wilderness; but environmental and other concerns make it equally certain that meat production will be under sustained pressure.

For instance, Australian National University epidemiologist Professor Tony McMichael contributed to a paper in the prestigous medical journal, The Lancet, proposing that the world commit to reducing the global average daily intake of meat, especially red meat from ruminants.

“This would be part of the evolving portfolio strategy—across various sectors of commerce, energy use and human behaviour—to mitigate climate change,” Prof. McMichael wrote in an article for a Food Ethics Council publication “Meat: The Challenge”.

“To avoid an increasing contribution to global warming from the livestock sector, we recommend a global average target figure of 90 grams of meat per day—with not more than 50 grams from ruminant animals. “

Corey Watts of The Climate Institute suggests that the future might involve fewer animals, but with a greater individual value born of strong environmental credentials.

“There’s a good case for the livestock industries really getting on top of environmental issues, because that’s where they are going to be judged in the future,” Mr Watts said.

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How can it use less water? The animal loony groups will say anything to try to get some leverage in the media. Animals are part of the ecosystem - the rain falls, they eat the grass. What else would happen to the grass? It would just go dry and possibly burn in a fire or not be used. In this day it's easy to spin something to sound good for you no matter what. I'll still be eating meat, couldn't care less about what anyone says.
Posted by russ, 5/11/2009 7:26:24 PM, on Stock & Land
The lunacy of this is based on the assumption that all livestock are grain fed or fed in a feedlot situation which is rubbish. The model used by Greenhouse Australia is based on the Blaxter and Clapperton experiments done in England in the mid 1960s. The main error in the methodology is that the model does not include the greenhouse gasses sequestered from the air to produce the grass that caused the gas in the first place. It is such an obvious error. It's like saying that if a person eats 1kg per day they will weigh 365 kgs more at the end of the year because we didn't include going to the toilet in the calculations! The other thing which should be self evident is that if a grassfed population of stock remains constant that the methane bubble doesn't get any bigger or smaller. Any methane produced in a pasture situation oxidises to form of 1 part carbon dioxide, 2 part water in very smart order which goes straight into producing grass for the next generation of animals. Unfortunately, succesive governments have wound back spending on agricultural research in this country, so we have very few research facilities left to validate this.
Posted by Bill Hunt, 5/11/2009 8:29:49 PM, on Stock & Land
During our health & science classes in the 1950s we were taught that vegetarians can suffer serious health problems attributable to poor bone structure & that children in particular should have a well balanced diet that includes red meat not over cooked. I do acknowledge that medical science has advanced considerably since then. But what is the scientific view today? And shouldn't political activists like Mr Stern be officially reprimanded for making broad sweeping assertions that could affect the health of children?
Posted by jock, 5/11/2009 8:48:59 PM, on Stock & Land
Stand back, look at the AGW push and the proposed ETS, and ask, "who is getting what they want out of this"? 1. The tree huggers, 2. The vegans, 3. The Marxists, and 4. For the time being at least, the money scammers.
Posted by Ted O'Brien, 6/11/2009 6:30:11 AM, on Stock & Land
How terrible! Doctors recommend we eat less meat and greenies say we should do it better! O woe is us! We'll all be rooned! (At least, that's what you might think from the paranoid reactions posted here. Oh, and let's not forget the conspiracy theorists...)
Posted by charlie, 6/11/2009 7:48:24 AM, on Stock & Land
Horticulture uses irrigation, fertiliser, cultivation and a lot of labour, to produce fruit and vegetables, from appropriate soil. In many countries this is done under greenhouses. Our cattle, on the other hand, utilise country that is not suitable for much else, and have a much smaller environmental "footprint". In other words, this issue is not about climate, CO2, etc., it is about pushing a totally different agenda. I do not normally go along with the conspiracy theory, but in this case it is blindingly obvious.
Posted by Practical Farmer, 6/11/2009 8:34:59 AM, on Stock & Land
1. A small proportion of the world's population eats too much meat and would be better-off eating less. That includes me I suspect. But hey, I like it. 2. A much larger proportion of the world's population doesn't get enough meat and would be better-off eating more. 3. Demand for Australian meat is predicted to rise, driven by increasing affluence of the nations in our region. 4. The MLA needs to keep debunking the methane greenhouse story. 5. Who's the winner out of the current plans to reduce carbon emissions? It's the nuclear industry, not the planet.
Posted by Kev, 6/11/2009 9:24:34 AM, on Stock & Land
People, people, people... Where's the middle ground on anything these days? It's either extreme left or extreme right proponents mouthing off based on what they choose to believe. Often both sides have certain pros and both certain cons. The solution lies not in everyone going vegan or even vego. Eating only meat is not the answer either. The reality of the situation is that if everyone that eats meat with every meal could simply reduce the amount of meat they eat, and include more fruit and veg, they'd be healthier, as would the planet. Likewise for a vego. If they all ate a little bit of meat and seafood, they'd be healthier too, not relying on supplements to keep their B12 levels up... Vegos, how many of you wear leather? I have been both: Meat-head and Vegan. Neither is good for you or your planet! It's all about moderation, and getting the balance right. Neither side is doing that at this point. Proponents from both extremes are behaving like spoilt brats.
Posted by freeranger, 6/11/2009 9:35:32 AM, on Stock & Land
I run cattle on my little 100 acre block and don't have to 'use' any water aside that which falls from the sky. To grow crops, including our self sufficient vege garden, I have to irrigate from our dam and the local river to be successful in growing a viable crop. Seems in reality it takes more water to grow the crops - so how does that work vegos? About time you spent your energy getting rid of the real and unnecessary destroyers of your environment - motor racing, plastic production, computers, playstations, mobiles, air conditioned shopping centres,vast expanses of tiled roof housing estates etc. - what you can't live without them? Think again.
Posted by just thinking, 6/11/2009 9:42:01 AM, on Stock & Land
This is just pure ignorance by the vegetarians. Grainfed animals form such a small portion of Australia's total production capacity. It should also be mentioned that the feed grains are required rotation break crops and is better suited for grain for animal digestion then human. Meat production is an effective use of land that would be otherwise unproductive. The vegos arguing this should not be generalised with general greenies though.
Posted by Vegos out of touch, 6/11/2009 9:42:30 AM, on Stock & Land
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Battle between the livestock food industry (above) and those advocating a vegetarian diet (below) is being fought on several fronts, with the debate accelerated by the focus on the impacts on climate change.
Battle between the livestock food industry (above) and those advocating a vegetarian diet (below) is being fought on several fronts, with the debate accelerated by the focus on the impacts on climate change.

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