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Russian offer of fire-fighting jets rejected

21 Oct, 2009 06:03 AM
AS BUSHFIRES consumed Victorian lives, forests, homes and townships in February, the Russian Government offered to send two of the world's biggest and most advanced waterbombers to the battle.

Each of the giant Ilyushin-76 jets could drop in a single pass 42,000 litres of water or retardant on a fire - almost five times the maximum capacity of the "Elvis" skycrane helicopters.

However, the offer, which came from the highest levels of the Government of the Russian Federation, was rejected, according to the Russian embassy in Canberra.

The Russian offer seems to have been lost in the confusion engulfing federal and Victorian authorities as they tried to deal with the disastrous fires, which cost 173 lives.

A spokesman for Emergency Management Australia, a division of the federal Attorney-General's Department, said: "During a severe natural disaster such as the Victorian bushfires many offers of international assistance are provided.

"As states and territories have primary responsibility for dealing with natural disasters, all offers of international assistance are forwarded to relevant state and territory agencies for their assessment."

However, a spokeswoman for the Victorian Government said that despite a search of all available material, no record of the Russian offer could be found.

A spokesman for the Country Fire Authority said he also knew nothing of the proposal, but would make further inquiries.

A spokesman for the Russian embassy in Canberra, Yaroslav Eremin, told The Age that the aircraft - part of a purpose-built fleet on standby in Russia to fight fires anywhere in the world - could have been in Australia within two days. They were not being used, because the northern hemisphere was in winter while Victoria burnt.

He said the offer was made through diplomatic channels directly from the Russian Government to the Australian Government. But the response from Australia, which he said "took some time" was that the planes were not required.

Mr Eremin said he did not wish to speculate about why the offer might have been rejected, but said that "it seems the Australian firefighting authorities felt they were well equipped" to handle the emergency.

He said he did not wish to say precisely when the offer was made, but said it was in February when the "fires were already burning".

The IL-76 waterbombers were developed to fight wildfires in remote areas of Russia such as Siberia, but have been used to fight major fires in Greece, Portugal and Yugoslavia.

Their two large water tanks are capable of being filled in 10 to 12 minutes and can be dumped in a single burst, producing a downpour akin to heavy rain over an area 550 metres long by 100 metres wide. If the tanks are emptied sequentially, the saturated area extends to 900 metres by 65 metres.

In a letter submitted to the Victorian Bushfires Royal Commission last week, the Russian ambassador to Australia, Alexander Blokhin, said experts from the Russian Ministry of Emergencies estimated that two such aircraft "would have been enough to cope with the firefighting task near Melbourne in February 2009".

He also stated that a smaller, Russian-built firefighting jet, the amphibian Beriev BE-200, which can scoop 9000 litres of water from the sea - even with waves of up to 1.5 metres running - could have stopped the East Kilmore fire "in one or two hours if the firefighting operation started in due time".

The East Kilmore fire eventually consumed Kinglake.

The Russian ambassador's comments were contained in a submission to the royal commission from a member of the Australian-Russia Business Council, Luke Fraser.

Mr Fraser submitted that the commission and Australian firefighting authorities should consider more advanced firefighting technologies and complementary organisational strategies than those currently employed.

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The person who made the decision to reject the Russians offer, should be FLOGGED!
Posted by tigerdicky, 21/10/2009 7:31:24 AM, on Stock & Land
The offer of using Ilyushin-76 firefighting planes predates the present proposal and dates back to around 1995 when the aircraft was shown at the Avalon airshow. Later that year while in Moscow working for the Australian Wool Corporation, I was approached by Ilyushin officials regarding a barter deal involving use of the aircraft in exchange for wool for Russian textile mills. I reported this to CFA officials on return to Australia. They were aware of the proposed use of the planes in Australia but it seemed that defence security concerns (with Russian crewed planes flying around Australia), communications issues and some internal politics as to who would have jurisdiction for operating the flights when the aircraft was located in one state but might be required for fires in another, were among the reasons for not pursuing this option. There were other logistical issues concerning location of airports that could support such large planes and their flexibility in delivering water and having to return to a base which could be long way from the fire were other reasons given for rejecting this approach at the time.
Posted by BarryW, 22/10/2009 7:47:55 AM, on Stock & Land
Barry W - are you making a confession?
Posted by tigerdicky, 22/10/2009 11:56:14 AM, on Stock & Land
We always knew they were using the fires for catch up risk fire management. They never wanted to put the fires out or they would have called on EVERY offer they were given. Pity so many people had to suffer. This has been a pattern for Victoria since the Labor Government has come into power. Before that the CFA got in there and put the fire out as quick as they could and had some help from the DSE but now it is the reverse and it's the paid fellows that call the shots. Shame on the Labor Government. I have been watching this with much interest as my 3 men were involved in the brigades before this but they pulled out because there is nothing to be a volunteer about. You just sit around and wait for the paid fellows to go home and then ... Well the rest is history now. At this same time rules came in that you had to do all this accreditation that lots had done a couple of times. Sorry CFA you have lost some very experienced volunteers right around Victoria because you have been compromised. This Russian plane could have helped to get the job done instead of leaving too many people's lives at risk and scarred for life with the trauma that unfolded.
Posted by Margaret, 22/10/2009 5:21:45 PM, on Stock & Land
Cut the bureaucratic crap! The Brumby govt is on notice this fire season to lease at least one of these large water capacity aircraft...or a similar North American purpose built DC 10 (that was supposedly ordered, but cancelled last year!). Avalon and RAAF East Sale should be able to be used as bases by these aircraft.
Posted by bob, 22/10/2009 5:30:38 PM, on Stock & Land
So in essense BarryW, following the initial offer WAY back in 1995, (some 14yrs later) both our Federal and Victorian State Governments had failed to implement a workable strategy to make use of thes aircraft... If true, I'm truly apalled and VERY angry. If true, that fact alone is worthy of its own Royal Commission!
Posted by CQ, 22/10/2009 10:45:40 PM, on Stock & Land

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The Ilyushin Il-76 airlifter.
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